Where I tend to battle with people is They think it's either infinite or Finite and they defend finite and the Whole point of infinite minded thinking Is you can absolutely have finite games In an infinite game just like I can try And be healthy and still set a goal of How much weight I want to lose I can Still have goals and numbers I metrics Are very important human beings are Tangible animals we we need to see the Numbers to make us feel like we're Making progress but there has to be a Context why are we counting these things It can't just be growth for growth sake Or to make me Rich or you know to hit Some arbitrary goal and some arbitrary Date what is the point of growth what is The point of hitting those numbers it Has to contribute to something bigger so Yeah the biggest arguments are really The finite-minded Defenders to be quite Honest